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: jim in pennsylvania. good afternoon from miami. you're on with awe their brad meltzer. >> caller: thank you for taking my call, i was on the way out to the door to run anary rand when i saw brad meltzer on your program, and when i heard the word heroes it reminded me of a kissing just had with my sister, it was over the book "death of the west" and he sad we have stripped away heroes out of our history books,, in the schools, and i just think that we need heroes to look up to and emulate. and right now it seems like in this country we have a trickle-down immortality, and so just hearing all these books and your philosophy, brad, of getting heroes out into the public, just really enlightens me and i just feel so good that you're doing this, and i look forward to reading your books because i do believe we need to have heroes -- >> guest: i appreciate that. you're exactly right. in fact one of the things i really want -- whether we like it or not, our kids are going to pick heroes. you might as well have a say it in. if you don't they're going to pick some dumb athlete with some stu
and choice and possibility and sacrifice. so wonder if you could go back. i know you were in the jim crow south in baker county, in georgia and you were daddy's girl. and trying to get all gangster driving the tractor at 4 years old and in the streets and neighborhood. tell us about that. >> well, you know, we were in baker county, out, you hear about, you read about some of the i have haves of earlier years but the gator and the sheriff in our county wanted to be known as the gator. the gator actually ruled every thing, everyone in the county. you can't imagine looking at the western from earlier days anyone like him but he was worse than what you have seen in your worst western. but growing up in that we, my family lived, my great-great grandparents had come to baker county. i don't know whether they came as slaves or not but i know they end up there as share croppers and with the up tent on buying land and that they did. they bought enough land that the area where i grew up was still today called hawkins town and lots of family. but it was that way, you know, the hawkins lived in one a
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